Photostitch.

topic posted Wed, March 12, 2008 - 2:35 PM by 
I want to create some big panorama files using maybe 10 3meg pictures, but I'm using Photostitch and the end file is only about 7megs. Is there a better application to create these big files?
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  • D
    D
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    Re: Photostitch.

    Wed, March 12, 2008 - 2:45 PM
    Photoshop has a function called "Photomerge" under the "Automate" menu. Have you tried that?
  • Re: Photostitch.

    Wed, March 12, 2008 - 4:25 PM
    I'm not familiar with "Photostitch", I've been using Autostitch, a public domain program that is often the engine on a lot of other stitching programs, though not photoshop's I'm pretty sure. The interface is not very complex in appearence, but there are quite a few adjustments you can make. The default is 10%, so 30mb worth of files would end up being around 3mb and not so good. But you can set it to 100%, after you've seen that you've got all the other things right, such as camera orientation and such.

    the real key, of course is the pixel dimensions and how much overlap you have between the images. My walk around point and shoot has a photostitch mode, but does nearly 40% overlap. If you have a lot of sky, for example, the file size might not be as big as you expect, but the pixel dimensions might be.

    I use photoshop now that I have it, but when the results are not quite what I want, I go back to autostitch which allows more control, even if I don't understand all the math settings.

    one of mine is here, reduced way way down to get it on tribe: people.tribe.net/redwoodtw...dd3788e305
    More at synature.smugmug.com/gallery...08794561
    • Re: Photostitch.

      Wed, March 12, 2008 - 8:12 PM
      Very nice pictures.

      But I'm a Mac person.
      I can only find Windoze versions.

      :)
      • Re: Photostitch.

        Thu, March 13, 2008 - 5:26 AM
        Autostitch runs under Wine. There are Mac versions of the the commercial versions of it.
        www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/aut...ostitch.html

        the pond pano is one where photoshop was unable to merge things but autostitch did.
        • Re: Photostitch.

          Thu, March 13, 2008 - 9:02 AM
          I use the photomerge in photoshop. If this is somthing you plan on doing a lot, think about investing in a racheting head for your tripod. They have heads that are specifically designed to keep the camera's orientation correct to take these type of pictures.
          • Re: Photostitch.

            Thu, March 13, 2008 - 9:53 AM
            I just tried the Photoshop thing and it didn't really merge anything very well. So I went back to photostitch and merged 20 pictures. It did a great job, but still the file was only 10megs and I want to print really big pictures. Hmmmm. Does Aperture do anything?
            • Re: Photostitch.

              Thu, March 13, 2008 - 11:47 AM
              I have a 2.5 foot by 9 foot panorama hanging outside the door of my loft-- it was stitched with Photoshop. What do you mean by "didn't really merge anything very well" ?
            • Re: Photostitch.

              Thu, March 13, 2008 - 4:27 PM
              I redid my pond pano at 100% and it's at www.gigapan.org/viewGigapan.php

              I tried doing it in photoshop last night, but photoshop couldn't handle the border between the 10th and 11th image in the top row. There were 24 images in all, each about 4mb. Autostitch handled it fine. The final image was 43mb as a jpeg, but nearly 400mb as the TIFF that gigapan wants.

              I've had others where autostitch didn't work with the default settings, This one, synature.smugmug.com/gallery...NT2-A-LB for example needed quite a few tweaks of the settings before it worked satisfactorily.

              If you've got plenty of memory on your Mac, I'd suggest installing Wine and giving autostitch a try. Or getting one of the commercial wrappers for autostitch that does run on a Mac.


        • Re: Photostitch.

          Fri, March 14, 2008 - 5:23 PM
          So I downloaded WINE and AutoStitch ..... now what? This is all a bit new to moi.
          • Re: Photostitch.

            Sun, March 16, 2008 - 8:58 AM
            The simple answer is install wine then run autostitch. how easy it would be to install wine, i don't know. how to tell wine you want to run autostitch I don't know either, but I'd guess it would go something like this:

            If wine is windows work alike, then there would be an equivalent to windows explorer, which is a listing of the files on the hard drive. You'd navigate to the folder where you unzipped autostitch and double click on autostitch.exe. A small window comes up with a very simple menu. Click on file, select open and browse to the folder where you have the images you want to stitch. Select the ones you want to stitch (I usually have to use some kind of image viewer to identify out which ones they are, since autostich isn't going to show you the image, just the file names.) The first time you run it, it will automatically grab them and stitch them at the default setting, something like 1400 pixels wide. This will give you an idea of what the result will be. Then you go to the edit on the autostich menu and select the options you want, click ok, then use the stitch item on the menu to stitch with the new options. It will remember which files you want included. If there is a pretty good match, it will go like a breeze.

            I don't go to 100% until the very small version looks pretty good. The thing does want a lot of memory when you go bigger, and can be slow. When I had only 1GB and a slower machine, the pond image took nearly a half hour. Even with 4GB and a much faster machine, it still took close on to 20 minutes. But it worked, while photoshop, though quicker, didn't.


            • Jon
              Jon
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              Re: Photostitch.

              Sat, April 5, 2008 - 7:55 AM
              For the Mac, there is a program called Hugin. It is a front end to several command programs. It works with tiff files and can create "Huge" images. 40 mB from 4 or 5 6 Mb images.
              • Re: Photostitch.

                Sat, April 5, 2008 - 8:50 AM
                If you do a google search using "pano software mac free", this site will come up first:
                www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pan...tware.htm Hugin is mentioned there, along with Canon's photostitch.
                He has a lot to say about a lot of photo subjects, mostly I agree, but sometimes not. For example, he figures you have to use a Mac or you are not professional. Up until a few years ago, I would have agreed that any graphics work would be better done on a Mac, but I don't think that is any longer true, due to the speed and capacity of the hardware currently available for the windows platform.

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